
Vancouver City Councilor Pat Campbell is 66. But that doesnt meanhes too old to have an elder put him in his (at least chronological)place.
Resident Ralph Peabody, who is in his late 70s and frequentlycomments about different issues, visited the city councils CitizenForum last week to talk about traffic issues in his neighborhood.
Cars come ripping and snorting speeding down Ninth Street,especially now that work is being done on 18th Street, Peabody said.He said he hasnt seen the police patrols he was promised.
Campbell chimed in after Peabody asked for a remedy: I travelNinth Street quite a bit. Theres series of speed bumps that make itimpossible to travel at the speeds youve named here.
He said he only hears this complaint from Peabody, and if it werethe disaster area Peabody describes it to be, hed hear from morepeople.
That didnt sit well with Mr. Peabody.
Let me get one thing straight, Peabody said. Youre calling me aliar, and thats not going to work, young man. I am not a liar, and Ireally resent that.
With all due respect to Mr. Campbell, we bet that hasnt happenedto him in a couple of decades.
(The citys also looking in to putting one of those your speedtrailers on Ninth Street that record a drivers speed and thendisplay it electronically to them.)
Andrea Damewood
Never a dull moment
The Clark County commissioners meeting last week was one for thebooks.
Not just for length, even though it was longer than four hours.
But all of the topics were actually compelling.
Put it this way: The tamest subject was a tax increase.
During public comment, four people who live near Rotschys YacoltMountain Quarry told commissioners the Storedahl mining operationhas affected their well water, both quality and quantity, anddescribed problems with trucks taking corners too fast on NortheastKelly Road.
The neighbors were so upset that Commissioner Steve Stuartreminded them it was a different board of commissioners that votedin 2003 to overturn a hearings examiner and allow the quarry.
(Then-Commissioners Craig Pridemore and Betty Sue Morris votedfor the quarry, while Judie Stanton dissented. Morris and Pridemoretold neighbors then that the county has zoned the Yacolt Mountainarea for resource production, not rural living.)
All the current board can do, Stuart said, is make sure thecompany complies with permit conditions.
Neighbors were told Clark County Public Health and other agenciesare looking into their concerns.
Our goal is to get it right this time, said Commissioner TomMielke.
It was an hour into the meeting before public hearings began.
Seven people spoke about the 911 excise tax, all in favor for it.The 20-cent monthly increase passed with yes votes from Stuart andMarc Boldt.
Then it was on to an ordinance regarding group homes that waswritten to address Hazel Dell House, 7515 N.W. 15th Ave., a state-funded group home for teenagers in foster care.
Trent Hall of New Vision Programs, who operates the home, and hisattorney said they dont need a conditional-use permit because thecounty allows adult family homes. The county wants to clarify thecode to make clear adult family homes, refers to adults, notteenagers.
The hearing was only on extending an emergency ordinance, so thisfight will go on.
Neighbors and the staffers who work with the teenagers areequally frustrated. The young men who live at the home testifiedthat this is their family and they dont want to leave. Neighbors saythe teenagers arent properly supervised and the county needs toenforce its own rules and demand a permit.
Boldt expressed frustration with the state Department of Socialand Health Services for not returning his calls about Hazel DellHouse.
Apparently they know I dont live in Olympia anymore, so they dontcare who I am, said Boldt, a former 17th District legislator.
Mielke asked Marty Snell, director of the county Department ofCommunity Development, why the state hasnt stepped up to make surethe publicly funded, privately operated home is in compliance.
The operator has known since last fall they needed a permit,Snell said. If they are not responsive to a commissioner, I doubtthey will be responsive to the director of a department.
Hall said he was first told he did not need a permit.
Stay tuned.
At this point, it was 1 p.m., three hours into the meeting.Mielke called for a 15-minute recess.
Last on the agenda? Home rule. First there was a lengthydiscussion about what the county did to promote the idea and howmuch it could cost, and how Administrator Bill Barron came up withthat cost estimate.
Thirteen people testified. Ten people were against going throughthe home rule charter process; three people were in favor of it.
Instead of at least voting to allow charter supporters to collect14,000-some signatures to put it on the ballot, commissioners justkilled the whole idea.
It was a quick death to an idea theyve been talking about formore than a year.
At least something about the meeting was quick.
Stephanie Rice
Im your child
The long meeting included Vancouver resident Carolyn Crain, whocame to talk about betrayal.
She feels betrayed that Commissioner Steve Stuart promised adistrictwide C-Tran vote, but then he and Commissioners Marc Boldtand Tom Mielke didnt put off enough muscle and allowed themselves tobe pushed around by Vancouver Mayor Tim Leavitt during a May 10 C-Tran meeting.
During the May 10 meeting, the C-Tran board put off deciding theboundaries for a 2012 sales tax vote on light rail and bus rapidtransit.
I am not happy with that, Crain said.
Josephine was right, said Crain, referring to Josephine Wentzelof notolls.com. It was a ruse.
Crain said she doesnt like when she goes to Vancouver CityCouncil meetings and Leavitt points out she lives outside of citylimits.
But she shops in the city, she said. She drives on city streets.Isnt that enough? Does she really need to be treated as, in herwords, the bastard child of the community?
While Leavitt is elected only by people who live within citylimits, commissioners have to act on behalf of every countyresident. And they cant just grandstand and make promises that theydont follow through on, she said.
Im your child, Crain told the commissioners. I want you to be thetough guys. Stand up and defend my American freedoms. ... Make meproud. Not ashamed.
Stuart explained that both the county and the city have threemembers on the C-Tran board. Leavitt is on the board with CouncilorsLarry Smith and Bart Hansen. Both the county and city have vetorights. The county did stand up for its citizens, Stuart said, butthe board reached a stalemate.
They could vote not to do a districtwide vote, we could vote notto do a subdistrict vote, Stuart said. And then theres no votes.
Stephanie Rice
Read the All Politics is Local blog at www.columbian.com/weblogs.
Dont call him a liar, young man
Vancouver City Councilor Pat Campbell is 66. But that doesnt meanhes too old to have an elder put him in his (at least chronological)place.
Resident Ralph Peabody, who is in his late 70s and frequentlycomments about different issues, visited the city councils CitizenForum last week to talk about traffic issues in his neighborhood.
Cars come ripping and snorting speeding down Ninth Street,especially now that work is being done on 18th Street, Peabody said.He said he hasnt seen the police patrols he was promised.
Campbell chimed in after Peabody asked for a remedy: I travelNinth Street quite a bit. Theres series of speed bumps that make itimpossible to travel at the speeds youve named here.
He said he only hears this complaint from Peabody, and if it werethe disaster area Peabody describes it to be, hed hear from morepeople.
That didnt sit well with Mr. Peabody.
Let me get one thing straight, Peabody said. Youre calling me aliar, and thats not going to work, young man. I am not a liar, and Ireally resent that.
With all due respect to Mr. Campbell, we bet that hasnt happenedto him in a couple of decades.
(The citys also looking in to putting one of those your speedtrailers on Ninth Street that record a drivers speed and thendisplay it electronically to them.)
Andrea Damewood
Never a dull moment
The Clark County commissioners meeting last week was one for thebooks.
Not just for length, even though it was longer than four hours.
But all of the topics were actually compelling.
Put it this way: The tamest subject was a tax increase.
During public comment, four people who live near Rotschys YacoltMountain Quarry told commissioners the Storedahl mining operationhas affected their well water, both quality and quantity, anddescribed problems with trucks taking corners too fast on NortheastKelly Road.
The neighbors were so upset that Commissioner Steve Stuartreminded them it was a different board of commissioners that votedin 2003 to overturn a hearings examiner and allow the quarry.
(Then-Commissioners Craig Pridemore and Betty Sue Morris votedfor the quarry, while Judie Stanton dissented. Morris and Pridemoretold neighbors then that the county has zoned the Yacolt Mountainarea for resource production, not rural living.)
All the current board can do, Stuart said, is make sure thecompany complies with permit conditions.
Neighbors were told Clark County Public Health and other agenciesare looking into their concerns.
Our goal is to get it right this time, said Commissioner TomMielke.
It was an hour into the meeting before public hearings began.
Seven people spoke about the 911 excise tax, all in favor for it.The 20-cent monthly increase passed with yes votes from Stuart andMarc Boldt.
Then it was on to an ordinance regarding group homes that waswritten to address Hazel Dell House, 7515 N.W. 15th Ave., a state-funded group home for teenagers in foster care.
Trent Hall of New Vision Programs, who operates the home, and hisattorney said they dont need a conditional-use permit because thecounty allows adult family homes. The county wants to clarify thecode to make clear adult family homes, refers to adults, notteenagers.
The hearing was only on extending an emergency ordinance, so thisfight will go on.
Neighbors and the staffers who work with the teenagers areequally frustrated. The young men who live at the home testifiedthat this is their family and they dont want to leave. Neighbors saythe teenagers arent properly supervised and the county needs toenforce its own rules and demand a permit.
Boldt expressed frustration with the state Department of Socialand Health Services for not returning his calls about Hazel DellHouse.
Apparently they know I dont live in Olympia anymore, so they dontcare who I am, said Boldt, a former 17th District legislator.
Mielke asked Marty Snell, director of the county Department ofCommunity Development, why the state hasnt stepped up to make surethe publicly funded, privately operated home is in compliance.
The operator has known since last fall they needed a permit,Snell said. If they are not responsive to a commissioner, I doubtthey will be responsive to the director of a department.
Hall said he was first told he did not need a permit.
Stay tuned.
At this point, it was 1 p.m., three hours into the meeting.Mielke called for a 15-minute recess.
Last on the agenda? Home rule. First there was a lengthydiscussion about what the county did to promote the idea and howmuch it could cost, and how Administrator Bill Barron came up withthat cost estimate.
Thirteen people testified. Ten people were against going throughthe home rule charter process; three people were in favor of it.
Instead of at least voting to allow charter supporters to collect14,000-some signatures to put it on the ballot, commissioners justkilled the whole idea.
It was a quick death to an idea theyve been talking about formore than a year.
At least something about the meeting was quick.
Stephanie Rice
Im your child
The long meeting included Vancouver resident Carolyn Crain, whocame to talk about betrayal.
She feels betrayed that Commissioner Steve Stuart promised adistrictwide C-Tran vote, but then he and Commissioners Marc Boldtand Tom Mielke didnt put off enough muscle and allowed themselves tobe pushed around by Vancouver Mayor Tim Leavitt during a May 10 C-Tran meeting.
During the May 10 meeting, the C-Tran board put off deciding theboundaries for a 2012 sales tax vote on light rail and bus rapidtransit.
I am not happy with that, Crain said.
Josephine was right, said Crain, referring to Josephine Wentzelof notolls.com. It was a ruse.
Crain said she doesnt like when she goes to Vancouver CityCouncil meetings and Leavitt points out she lives outside of citylimits.
But she shops in the city, she said. She drives on city streets.Isnt that enough? Does she really need to be treated as, in herwords, the bastard child of the community?
While Leavitt is elected only by people who live within citylimits, commissioners have to act on behalf of every countyresident. And they cant just grandstand and make promises that theydont follow through on, she said.
Im your child, Crain told the commissioners. I want you to be thetough guys. Stand up and defend my American freedoms. ... Make meproud. Not ashamed.
Stuart explained that both the county and the city have threemembers on the C-Tran board. Leavitt is on the board with CouncilorsLarry Smith and Bart Hansen. Both the county and city have vetorights. The county did stand up for its citizens, Stuart said, butthe board reached a stalemate.
They could vote not to do a districtwide vote, we could vote notto do a subdistrict vote, Stuart said. And then theres no votes.
Stephanie Rice
Read the All Politics is Local blog at www.columbian.com/weblogs.
Dont call him a liar, young man
Vancouver City Councilor Pat Campbell is 66. But that doesnt meanhes too old to have an elder put him in his (at least chronological)place.
Resident Ralph Peabody, who is in his late 70s and frequentlycomments about different issues, visited the city councils CitizenForum last week to talk about traffic issues in his neighborhood.
Cars come ripping and snorting speeding down Ninth Street,especially now that work is being done on 18th Street, Peabody said.He said he hasnt seen the police patrols he was promised.
Campbell chimed in after Peabody asked for a remedy: I travelNinth Street quite a bit. Theres series of speed bumps that make itimpossible to travel at the speeds youve named here.
He said he only hears this complaint from Peabody, and if it werethe disaster area Peabody describes it to be, hed hear from morepeople.
That didnt sit well with Mr. Peabody.
Let me get one thing straight, Peabody said. Youre calling me aliar, and thats not going to work, young man. I am not a liar, and Ireally resent that.
With all due respect to Mr. Campbell, we bet that hasnt happenedto him in a couple of decades.
(The citys also looking in to putting one of those your speedtrailers on Ninth Street that record a drivers speed and thendisplay it electronically to them.)
Andrea Damewood
Never a dull moment
The Clark County commissioners meeting last week was one for thebooks.
Not just for length, even though it was longer than four hours.
But all of the topics were actually compelling.
Put it this way: The tamest subject was a tax increase.
During public comment, four people who live near Rotschys YacoltMountain Quarry told commissioners the Storedahl mining operationhas affected their well water, both quality and quantity, anddescribed problems with trucks taking corners too fast on NortheastKelly Road.
The neighbors were so upset that Commissioner Steve Stuartreminded them it was a different board of commissioners that votedin 2003 to overturn a hearings examiner and allow the quarry.
(Then-Commissioners Craig Pridemore and Betty Sue Morris votedfor the quarry, while Judie Stanton dissented. Morris and Pridemoretold neighbors then that the county has zoned the Yacolt Mountainarea for resource production, not rural living.)
All the current board can do, Stuart said, is make sure thecompany complies with permit conditions.
Neighbors were told Clark County Public Health and other agenciesare looking into their concerns.
Our goal is to get it right this time, said Commissioner TomMielke.
It was an hour into the meeting before public hearings began.
Seven people spoke about the 911 excise tax, all in favor for it.The 20-cent monthly increase passed with yes votes from Stuart andMarc Boldt.
Then it was on to an ordinance regarding group homes that waswritten to address Hazel Dell House, 7515 N.W. 15th Ave., a state-funded group home for teenagers in foster care.
Trent Hall of New Vision Programs, who operates the home, and hisattorney said they dont need a conditional-use permit because thecounty allows adult family homes. The county wants to clarify thecode to make clear adult family homes, refers to adults, notteenagers.
The hearing was only on extending an emergency ordinance, so thisfight will go on.
Neighbors and the staffers who work with the teenagers areequally frustrated. The young men who live at the home testifiedthat this is their family and they dont want to leave. Neighbors saythe teenagers arent properly supervised and the county needs toenforce its own rules and demand a permit.
Boldt expressed frustration with the state Department of Socialand Health Services for not returning his calls about Hazel DellHouse.
Apparently they know I dont live in Olympia anymore, so they dontcare who I am, said Boldt, a former 17th District legislator.
Mielke asked Marty Snell, director of the county Department ofCommunity Development, why the state hasnt stepped up to make surethe publicly funded, privately operated home is in compliance.
The operator has known since last fall they needed a permit,Snell said. If they are not responsive to a commissioner, I doubtthey will be responsive to the director of a department.
Hall said he was first told he did not need a permit.
Stay tuned.
At this point, it was 1 p.m., three hours into the meeting.Mielke called for a 15-minute recess.
Last on the agenda? Home rule. First there was a lengthydiscussion about what the county did to promote the idea and howmuch it could cost, and how Administrator Bill Barron came up withthat cost estimate.
Thirteen people testified. Ten people were against going throughthe home rule charter process; three people were in favor of it.
Instead of at least voting to allow charter supporters to collect14,000-some signatures to put it on the ballot, commissioners justkilled the whole idea.
It was a quick death to an idea theyve been talking about formore than a year.
At least something about the meeting was quick.
Stephanie Rice
Im your child
The long meeting included Vancouver resident Carolyn Crain, whocame to talk about betrayal.
She feels betrayed that Commissioner Steve Stuart promised adistrictwide C-Tran vote, but then he and Commissioners Marc Boldtand Tom Mielke didnt put off enough muscle and allowed themselves tobe pushed around by Vancouver Mayor Tim Leavitt during a May 10 C-Tran meeting.
During the May 10 meeting, the C-Tran board put off deciding theboundaries for a 2012 sales tax vote on light rail and bus rapidtransit.
I am not happy with that, Crain said.
Josephine was right, said Crain, referring to Josephine Wentzelof notolls.com. It was a ruse.
Crain said she doesnt like when she goes to Vancouver CityCouncil meetings and Leavitt points out she lives outside of citylimits.
But she shops in the city, she said. She drives on city streets.Isnt that enough? Does she really need to be treated as, in herwords, the bastard child of the community?
While Leavitt is elected only by people who live within citylimits, commissioners have to act on behalf of every countyresident. And they cant just grandstand and make promises that theydont follow through on, she said.
Im your child, Crain told the commissioners. I want you to be thetough guys. Stand up and defend my American freedoms. ... Make meproud. Not ashamed.
Stuart explained that both the county and the city have threemembers on the C-Tran board. Leavitt is on the board with CouncilorsLarry Smith and Bart Hansen. Both the county and city have vetorights. The county did stand up for its citizens, Stuart said, butthe board reached a stalemate.
They could vote not to do a districtwide vote, we could vote notto do a subdistrict vote, Stuart said. And then theres no votes.
Stephanie Rice
Read the All Politics is Local blog at www.columbian.com/weblogs.